Well my Tripacer which has the Lycoming 150 sure wouldn't have problems taking 4 regular guys. As for the famous quote "they glide like a rock" isn't as bad as people are making it to be. They do sink more but not as bad as one thinks. Usually people that don't have much time or any, intend to knock down the old bird without really knowing the true facts first hand. Only thing I don't care for the tripacer is because its short coupled you will notice getting thrown around more on a turbulent day. Otherwise what are plane can you bye for 11k that get you flying smile