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I find the number of hours on the airframe is not nearly as important as Vref valuation would have you believe. There are a lot of 150s with well over 10,000 TTAF that are flying around just fine.

I've found that the hours on the airframe detracts from the price far in excess of any actual wear and tear. As with anything else, the level of maintenance received is far more important than the number of hours flown.

PS - as an aside - my current mount has over 10,000 hours on its airframe. I was a bit concerned until A) I inspected it myself, and B) I found out Cardinals used in pipeline control have over 40,000 hours, yet are still flying.

I didn't know that........I never would have guessed that, either.


Years ago, Beech went looking for the highest time air frame Bonanza's they could find as they wanted to inspect them and see how they were doing.

They found 2 being used as trainers for Lufthansa Airlines in Arizona that had 20k hours.

Beech brought them back to Wichita, disassembled them and found nothing wrong with them. They reassembled them and gave them back to Lufthansa.

I thought 20k was a lot but 40k is wild.

Barring corrosion and damage, we should all feel some level of comfort by all this.



Jim

Thank you all for the wise advice, it has reinforced my original thinking.

Getting back to my 3 aircraft choice, #3 is most interesting to me as it's maintenance appears to be good ( I'm having an AME go through the logs next week). I'm curious about the SID inspections that have been carried out, can any of you wise people shed any light on exactly what is being inspected?

I don't have full access to the Cessna website but it appears they are all about corrosion and crack testing? The docs that concern the 150L are D971-3TR6 &7.

Thanks again, I can't believe how much good advice is available here

40,000 hours is a bunch!

20 years, flying 8 hours a day, five days a week.

Dang...

When I bought my 150M from the flying club with 14000 hours I was of course concerned. But I had been flying that plane for years as a student and then as a renter, so I was well familiar with it's behaviors and quirks, and of course falling under the commercial maint program was a good thing. And the mechanic who had maintained it for years (and would continue to do so) made a good point - after that many hours in that environment, everything has been replaced The paint was faded, but not super crappy, the interior was well used, and it had a ton of hail dents. But it was always the favorite of everyone, and it was also the fastest 150 - even with 2300SMOH!

As Kirk says, TTAF may or may not factor into the final price and decision so much as you may think.

I am unfamiliar with SID inspections?

40,000 hours at an average of 85 mph = 3,400,000 miles. That's 130 trips around the world.

How much farther around for every 1000' of altitude???

Everyone! Thanks for the replies! I have always wondered about this!

Eric! Wow 14,000 TTAF! This sounds very much like the 67G 150 I rented last year. It's no longer available for rent as they have it up for sale. It looks like a typical Arizona plane that is tied down outside....her paint is really shot...actually if I park my 2002 Cavalier with 329,000 miles on her next to the 67G they look like family!

You know that is a good point and it makes me start to think...maybe it really is a good deal. They are asking $16,000...well maybe it sold as its not on Barnstormers anymore...

Jim every once in awhile as I am coming into Gila Bend, Arizona, I see a bright yellow Beechcraft Bonanza and I know it's the German's training pilots. They always contact KGXF tower for altimeter. We get a lot of Chinese students into the muni as well but they fly all white with blue tail Pipers.

Not exactly western Canada, but it's farther west than me.

https://www.barnstormers.com/classified_1308056_MInt+150+M.html

Thanks Steve.

I've already contacted the owner😀 Am waiting on some more pics.

I'm also looking at a couple of others locally, will keep you all posted.

Martin