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#608318 09/05/20 01:33 AM
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For Sale or Trade - 2000 AP1 Formula Red S2000 Roadster. Always garage kept. Great condition for age. Low mileage. Would love to trade for a 150/152.
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Hi David! Interesting proposal in the Cessna 150 forum, sports car for airplane. Cool!
I've always liked those cars. Have you hit the local autocross in it? They're outstanding in that type of performance contest--I've seen that myself.

Welcome to the Cessna 150/152 club forum! This is one of the best type clubs out there, and some the people who read your posts are experts, experienced, and generous with their knowledge. It may take a while for someone to respond to any given post. Give it a few days sometimes.

In your airplane search, what is your mission? Are you a seasoned pilot looking to "upgrade" to a personal two-seater? Are you a student pilot looking for something to get your pilot license in? Something in between those? Do fly alone or with someone? We often have good airplanes crop up for sale either on the forum or pointed out by members on other sites. If you find one that might fit your mission and it's near a club member, we can often take a look for you.

You probably know this, but the mission is as important as anything else in choosing an airplane. If someone wants to get a pilot license, then fly day VFR for fun, that gives you a lot of options. If you need something to fly long cross country flights, you can find one that will do that for you. If one plans to get an instrument rating in it or learn aerobatics, that limits the choices, but you can still choose a C150/152 even for those missions. Only thing a Cessna 150 or 152 can't do is become large or become fast. For personal flying, though, they're hard to beat, especially when you consider their safe handling and relative affordability.

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Geoff, thanks for your reply. I responded to your post yesterday, but somehow it was lost. You are correct, the S2000 is a wonerdul roadster. Lots of fun. Will make someone vey happy, but I need the garage space and I want a plane. So I thought why not make a trade with someone. My dream plane is a 150/150 taildragger.

About me, I am a 60 year old student pilot on the verge of obtaining my ppl. So I am primarily looking to build hours, but most importantly become proficient. At this point my wife won’t even get close to an airplane with me as the pilot, so I will be largely flying alone. My mission is to commute @ 200 nm regularly to and from San Antonio Texas to visit my grandson and children. I would like the flexibility to travel cross country to Florida and up into the mountains to avoid summer heat on occasion as well. Having a good trainer the children and grandchildren can learn to fly is also appealing.

There are a couple high airframe 152’s coming off the local flight school fleet here in San Antonio currently listed on trade a plane, but the high airframe time make me nervous.

Appreciate your input and advice!!

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Welcome to the forum, Mike. Hopefully you'll find someone who wants to trade his plane for your car. I too have a roadster, a 2007 Miata, with a removable hard top. I also owned a 1980 C-152 from 2001 until 2017 when I had to give up flying.

A 200-nm trip is certainly doable in a 150 or 152, you can do it non-stop on a full tank in less than 3 hrs. You can also fly it to FL, although that will take longer. I flew my 152 from Topeka, KS to Pensacola, FL in 2012, and it took 2 days at a leisure pace. Going up to the mountains in the TX heat, having a 150/150 will definitely help.

It's interesting that most 152s have higher airframe time than 150s. When Cessna was still producing them, the flight school used to replace their 150s every 5 years or so. Once sold to private owners, they don't get flown as much and the airframe time accumulated at a much slower rate. On the other hand, after Cessna stopped making the 152s in 1985, the flight schools couldn't find a suitable replacement and hang on to their 152s for as long as they can. My 152 used to be owned by a local flight school and had a little over 10,000 hrs TTAF when I bought it. I put on another 1000 hrs by the time I sold it.

Don't let the high airframe time scare you. Planes used by flight schools have to be inspected every 100 hrs. A plane owned by a reputable flight school is pretty reliable because the school certainly doesn't want to be sued if a student crashed due to a poorly maintained plane.

Good luck with your hunt for an airplane.
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Welcome to the Club and Forum, Mike.

Great looking sports car. There is a 150/150 listed in the classifieds here.

Good luck on finishing up your PPL. About when I think I had just as well sell Molly and quit flying, I go for a short flight and decide no, I need to keep her. I have flown our 150 on several 200 nm trips. I can usually plan about half the time it takes to drive. Plus, you get the enjoyment of flying.

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I second everything that Hung says. My current airplane was a flight-school rental. Or, as the broker who sold it to me tried to spin it, "it's a one-owner airplane!"

It should get a good pre-buy inspection, just like with any aircraft purchase. However, a flight-school plane means it was getting a 100-hour inspection (the equivalent of an annual inspection) every hundred hours instead of just once a year.

Even so, these are trainers and may have seen their share of hard landings. So the pre-buy inspection should concentrate on the landing gear mountings in the belly and firewall in addition to the regular stuff. There are several 150s and 152s running around with over 10,000 hours on them and flying quite well.


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I bought my first 150 from our flight school with 14000 hours TTAF and 2200 on the mill. I sold it 3 years later and it has since changed hands a couple of times and has come back to our local airport and flies regularly - and has had no major maintenance done! Well north of 14000 hours and over 2300 SMOH! It LOVES to fly!

Hope you find what you're after!


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Thanks for the advice everyone! Maybe I should consider the high airframe 152 trainers after all. One of them has 2310 SMOH, 179 STOH lycoming 0-235 engine. Perhaps a sparrow hawk overhaul could take me close to my 150/150 desires. Looks like Geoff has got dibs on the 150/150 listed on here.
Does anyone know someone who could do a thorough pre-buy for me in the San Antonio area, and what should I expect to pay him/her?
I love this forum. Wasn't aware of the Sparrow hawk STC until yesterday .....

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Nice looking S2000. I was debating one before getting one of the Dodge snakes.

I love going to Valley and have been to HRL a few times for business and otherwise. I'm just "North" of San Antonio in Lockhart and my mechanic can help you out. Ken Smith / ken@kensmobilemechanics.com. I don't recall his rates for a 150, but I would suspect $600-$1000 depending if you make it an annual or not.

Say hi if you're ever in the area!


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Thanks Matt, I appreciate your help.

Mike

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