| | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | [quote=Though it appears now that backing plates may be even more rare then nose pants?? I've seen several sets of the different plates on eBay just this past year- you just have to know what you're looking at, as most sellers have no clue to the year/model they are selling.
What is almost impossible to find is the nose pant top cover, I made mine as I was unsuccessful in tracking one down.
-Brian I think we are finally making some sense out of this wheel pants question. I personally prefer the "long pointy" wheel pants over then newer blunt style. But finding brackets to fit those looks like it will be more of an ordeal then just finding a set that fits the aircraft properly. (By the way, Mr. Ed does have the nose gear.) I'll just keep my eyes and ears peeled and see what comes up.................
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 Member/15,000 posts | | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 | I think Charles documented almost all of the differences in a post some months back.
The question of wheel pant vs. mounting plate vs. axle mounting is a little more complex than most folks realize. There are several bolt spacings available on the flat gear axles, therefore axles/mounting plate combinations are not always interchangeable with gear legs, let alone wheel pants. I'm pretty sure any 150/152 round gear leg mounting plate will fit any other round gear leg mounting, but will not fit any flat gear mounting. I think all of the mounting plates are made of flat stock, so in theory, any wheel pant can be made to fit any axle bolt pattern by fabricating a custom set of mounting plates from flat stock, but then the whole installation will require FAA approval. Aircraft Spruce and probably others now offer new PMA'd mounting plates, but not for all models. Simply drilling (elongating) new mounting holes where required might work, but might also weaken the mounting, and obviously isn't authorized by p/n either. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,768 Likes: 3 Member/2500+posts | | Member/2500+posts Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,768 Likes: 3 | You can do the job with these tools (attached photo below)
These are from Snap-on, but other brands may be equal in quality. Beware of cheap pencil type gauges, they are notoriously inaccurate.
-Brian The first two items will not work with the old wheel pants, at least, with the stems installed on my tires. The third item will work if the chuck on it is at 90 degrees to the hose. It looks to me like the best attachment is a 90-degree chuck as short as possible. Reg | | | | | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,768 Likes: 3 Member/2500+posts | | Member/2500+posts Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,768 Likes: 3 | Hung: The newer pants must be a little harder to get off. On the older ones there are, what?, eight short screws on the backside and the center bolt on the front. With an electric screwdriver it is a pretty quick job (unless some goob has put a cryin' strain on some of the screws). Once you get the combination down, particularly getting the pant popped off the studs on the back side, it goes pretty fast. I will time it next time I have to do it, just to make sure I am not 'zageratin' (never happens!  ). Of course, with those nifty doors, you don't need to fuss with that. Reg | | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | Gee Carl! Here I am just trying to find the simple solution to all of this "which wheel pants will fit which airplane" fiasco and you just keep on complicating it all back up again!!! All I want is to simply install these wheel pants on our airplane!  By the way, I received a quote for some wheel pants from Preferred Air Parts: Part Number Part Name Condition Quantity Price Each Core Charge SubTotal 0541223-16 Fairing RH $710.40 $0.00 $710.40 0541223-17 Fairing LH $592.00 $0.00 $592.00 0543079-1 Fairing Nose $725.40 $0.00 $725.40 Total $2,027.80 and they are not even matching! 
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 Member/15,000 posts | | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 | Hee hee! Next time, I'll keep quiet and let you learn the HARD way!  | | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | By just looking at the parts book, and not having the actual parts before me, it looks as if those pants originally designed for pre 1975 tubed gear will fit all previous models. And that the pre 1971 brackets can be easily modified to fit the newer model tube gear. Brackets and pants look to be interchangable until the 1975 model year. (A minor cut out of the pre 1971 brackets would be all that is required.) In 1975, they completely changed the brackets so they will only fit the 1975 and later pants. Mr. Ed is the very first 1975 model. So, thus the first 150 with the changed brackets and pants.
So, if anybody out there have any pre 1975 wheel pants brackets that they would like to sell me?? | | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | It appears that I missed it by just one airplane for these pants to fit................ OK Brian, Gary, Carl, others? Dig out your parts books and scratch your heads and tell me why this will not work? Replacing my backing plates with part numbers 0441201-5 and 0441201-6. (71-73 backing plates) This should allow me to use any wheel pants before 1974, correct?  The pre 1970 installation do not show a stiffener being used. Would I want to use the stiffener with the older pants or not? Ain't this fun??
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| | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | OK, this is what my research, along with the help of knowledgable others here, has shown me:
1. Pre 1974 wheel pants are interchangable using the stock backing plates of that year of aircraft.
2. Tube gear backing plates will fit on the flat gear but not vice versa without minor modification.
3. 1974 wheel pants and newer require their own backing plate. This combination will fit all 150's.
So to fit the pre 1968 wheel pants that I have to our 1975 150, all I require is the brackets from a 1971-1973 aircraft......... | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 | I've got an easier solution: Just as soon as I paint my 'new-to-me' wheel pants, I'll send you my original '76 main-gear wheel pants with the little doors on the sides. Then, you'd only have to find a nose gear pant to have a matching set. Course, you'd need to repair the little cracks & chips before you use them.  Would that work out better? Sure sounds easier to me. 
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