| | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,526 Member/5000+posts! | | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,526 | Hummmmm........
counting the dollars.
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 | Well if any of you folks know of someone interested in owning Mightymouse let me know One of the two student pilots that we met at Jim's cookout asked if we know of any 150s for sale. He's a student of Mark Stevens'. You can ask Mark for contact info. | | | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,797 Member/2500+posts | | Member/2500+posts Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,797 | You're half correct. It has to be built exactly per manufacturer specs. However, once it has been certified, you can modify it anyway you want. This is correct, from the original link [ vansaircraft.com] I posted, here is what Van's say: How can an RV-12 be licensed?
The RV-12 is designed to be licensed as an Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (E-LSA). Currently RV-12s in the USA have been licensed in both E-LSA and Experimental Amateur-Built (E-AB) categories.
Although the E-LSA category does not permit builders to deviate from the kit or plans (no unapproved engines, propellers, etc. are allowed) it does have some very attractive features. In the E-LSA category, there is no "51%" rule, and no restriction on who may assist in building the airplane. This allows any amount of help, professional assistance or even a fully professional-built airplane. The only way there can be a RV-12 S-LSA is if Van's starts building and selling the plane itself. I believe the prototype RV-12 built by Vans is a S-LSA. The RV-12 has some impressive specs. A useful load of 580 pounds (420 lbs with full tanks), top speed of 135 mph (120 knots), and a fuel burn of around 4.5 gph. It is bigger inside than a 150 and flys faster, all on less fuel. It does cost a little more than a 150, but with some sweat equity, you can have something comparable to a $120,000 LSA for half the price. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 | The RV-12 has some impressive specs.It is bigger inside than a 150 and flies faster, all on less fuel. It does cost a little more than a 150, but with some sweat equity, you can have something comparable to a $120,000 LSA for half the price. What keeps me from going ahead with my plan to build is the property tax (5% of market value) will be $6000 per year.  | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 | Move! You'll be retired, so it won't matter. 
Message sent from a rotary pay phone... Bengie [ Linked Image]
| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 | Move! You'll be retired, so it won't matter. I would if I were single. Difficult with a wife and two kids with disabilities. | | | | | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 22,641 Likes: 2666 Member/20,000 posts | | Member/20,000 posts Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 22,641 Likes: 2666 | Well if any of you folks know of someone interested in owning Mightymouse let me know One of the two student pilots that we met at Jim's cookout asked if we know of any 150s for sale. He's a student of Mark Stevens'. You can ask Mark for contact info. I talked with him on Saturday Hung and they are in the 15,000.00 - 20,000.00 market. Jim
Cessna 150/150, N2259M - Mighty Mouse
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The only way there can be a RV-12 S-LSA is if Van's starts building and selling the plane itself. I believe the prototype RV-12 built by Vans is a S-LSA. The RV-12 has some impressive specs. A useful load of 580 pounds (420 lbs with full tanks), top speed of 135 mph (120 knots), and a fuel burn of around 4.5 gph.
It is bigger inside than a 150 and flys faster, all on less fuel. It does cost a little more than a 150, but with some sweat equity, you can have something comparable to a $120,000 LSA for half the price.
See this is what I don't understand as to why everyone swoons over the RV12 (or RV's in General).... The spec's for the LSA Foxbat are more impressive, lifts more weight, can fly doors off, holds more fuel, wider cabin, STOL etc etc. RV's, in general to me, are becoming like, well... "bum holes"....everybody’s got one  sure their not a bad looking aircraft, but there not the only good ones out there!!! its almost like its all hype or just cool to be in Van's Air force (a lot of the owners are getting like Bonanza pilots - their precious) - but really, for me, I'd take a T18 over a general RV any day - and again, in the category, the Foxbat is the better A/C over the RV12 hands down Ok, I'm done..... 
Matt Gray
VH-UEG - A150K
VH-UEH - Airedale A109
VH-UYL - Taylorcraft J2
aerobat@cessna150pilot.com
A150K@hotmail.com
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,828 Likes: 139 Member/7500+posts | | Member/7500+posts Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,828 Likes: 139 | Using the same engine as I'm flying now in my 150/150, I could be flying 185 mph. That has a lot of appeal.
It doesn't matter what shape that package comes in, since I don't have the desire or ability to design my own, the Vans RV series are an awesome way to shrink the country with relatively low operating costs.
No rants or fussing here....just admiration.
Gary Shreve When writing the story of your life, never, ever let someone else hold the pen. [ Linked Image] | | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | Using the same engine as I'm flying now in my 150/150, I could be flying 185 mph. That has a lot of appeal.
It doesn't matter what shape that package comes in, since I don't have the desire or ability to design my own, the Vans RV series are an awesome way to shrink the country with relatively low operating costs.
No rants or fussing here....just admiration. If only there was room for Cheyenne, her kennel and the camping gear.  Bill Grants Pass, Oregon | | |
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