| Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 | Looking for the Blue Book on a 2009 Remos GX AV1. Does anyone know how to get that info other than paying for the online service?
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| | | | Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,797 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,797 | You can get a rough value on the AOPA website. [ aopa.org] I think you have to be a member to access it, though. | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,951 Likes: 1 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,951 Likes: 1 | Trade-A-Plane has an on line aircraft evaluator. However, you have to subscribe to TAP, but then doesn't everyone  | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 | I got both let me check them out... Thanks
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 | 132k AOPA worked the NAAA didn't list the Remos... 
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,526 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 6,526 | 132k AOPA worked the NAAA didn't list the Remos... Are you buying one?, or selling one? | | | | Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 642 Likes: 5 |
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| | | | Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 144 Member/100+posts | Member/100+posts Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 144 | I do not believe in any VREF. Only you know the exact value of your aircraft. YOU know how it looks, how it flies, and all the items that are new, rebuilt, old, etc etc. If a VREF SAYS 18K AND YOU HAVE 27K INTO IT,then it's a great deal for someone espesially if yo have great compressions and no oil leaks or usage. TBO's are just a recommendation thats why the FAA does not make them mandatory. I have seen engines go well over 1000 hrs beyond TBO and still be safe and reliable...
Jim Kent
| | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 11,455 Likes: 955 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 11,455 Likes: 955 | Wondering about your thoughts on the Remos.
I flew one for the first time a month ago and was frankly astounded to find there was no baggage area. I was looking for something that my wife could take on short weekend trips but that took it out of the picture fast.
Good performance, impressive for the power, it easily out climbs and out runs a 150/152 and burns less gas, but very rudder limited. I would not like to deal with much crosswind.
With no baggage area I am curious why a person would buy one as a personal airplane unless she or he did not plan on ever carrying a passenger when going on an overnight trip.
Best regards, Rick | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 11,455 Likes: 955 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 11,455 Likes: 955 | Jim,
Over the years I've found Vref to be pretty accurate.
You rarely get what you put into an airplane out of it at sale, which is why buyers look for an airplane with all the bells and whistles already installed rather than put them in after purchase. Paying $20,000 or so to put in dual 530s and a coupled autopilot in a 150 isn't going to increase the sale value of the airplane by that much; just doesn't happen. (Although I've sure met sellers who spent some time thinking that because they had %40,000 in a 150 that they should get that out of it at sale before the realities of the market disabused them of the notion. None came close.)
Agree with you 100%, TBO is only a bit of information. But without solid engine monitor information, oil analysis results, good compression check and clean borescope results, a buyer is going to shy away from an engine that is well past TBO "just because". sigh
A friend has a 310 with both engines more than 1,000 hours past TBO, running great. He monitors the heck out of them and runs them lean of peak to keep temps down (which is one reason they lasted so long) but recognizes that the resale value of the airplane right now is with runout engines.
Best regards, Rick | | |
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