I agree David, but I flew Cessna's all my life, (150-152 172 180 and 185) and when I got the tripace everone said its a rock, so evertime I approched the runway I was comming in high, finally said Im going to approch like a cessna and everything from there on in was good. I find Ppower off glide not to be as bad. But again its everyone to there own. I still perfer the 172, with 2 doors more room, not so short coupled. But thats me. I still like the tripacer I have, but I feel a 172 is just better overall plane.