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Re: Watch This Space Matthew Gray #287719 11/11/10 01:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 KTOP Topeka Kansas Hung Member/25,000 posts
Hung Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,988 Likes: 1242 KTOP Topeka Kansas	Originally Posted by Matthew_Gray in the category, the Foxbat is the better A/C over the RV12 hands down I had to Google to find out you were talking about the Aeroprackt A22 Foxbat. It's not well known in the US. I don't like its styling much. Now, if you were talking about the Mig Foxbat, that's a different story.

Re: Watch This Space Matthew Gray #287724 11/11/10 02:22 AM
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,768 Likes: 3 Shelton, WA Reg Hearn Member/2500+posts
Reg Hearn Member/2500+posts Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,768 Likes: 3 Shelton, WA	Originally Posted by Matthew_Gray Quote The only way there can be a RV-12 S-LSA is if Van's starts building and selling the plane itself. I believe the prototype RV-12 built by Vans is a S-LSA. The RV-12 has some impressive specs. A useful load of 580 pounds (420 lbs with full tanks), top speed of 135 mph (120 knots), and a fuel burn of around 4.5 gph. It is bigger inside than a 150 and flys faster, all on less fuel. It does cost a little more than a 150, but with some sweat equity, you can have something comparable to a $120,000 LSA for half the price. See this is what I don't understand as to why everyone swoons over the RV12 (or RV's in General).... The spec's for the LSA Foxbat are more impressive, lifts more weight, can fly doors off, holds more fuel, wider cabin, STOL etc etc. RV's, in general to me, are becoming like, well... "bum holes"....everybody’s got one sure their not a bad looking aircraft, but there not the only good ones out there!!! its almost like its all hype or just cool to be in Van's Air force (a lot of the owners are getting like Bonanza pilots - their precious) - but really, for me, I'd take a T18 over a general RV any day - and again, in the category, the Foxbat is the better A/C over the RV12 hands down Ok, I'm done..... Ever flown an RV. I had the opportunity. That "RV grin" is not just advertising! Reg

Re: Watch This Space Reg Hearn #287726 11/11/10 02:28 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,959 Likes: 724 I'm lost.. Ed Pataky DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!!
Ed Pataky DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,959 Likes: 724 I'm lost..	Oh man.... I had the opportunity to fly in an RV-6 I think it was around Christmas, 2004. It was a pretty cool experience. We covered ground in 15 minutes that takes me durn near a half hour to do. A roll or two... yeah... it was SLAMMIN'!!!! [animatedimages.org] Imagine a united world. Join the Popular Front for the Reunification of Gondwanaland.

Re: Watch This Space Reg Hearn #287743 11/11/10 03:35 AM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 23 Wedderburn Airstrip, Sydney, A... Matthew Gray Member/5000+posts!
Matthew Gray Member/5000+posts! Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 23 Wedderburn Airstrip, Sydney, A...	Originally Posted by Reg_Hearn [/quote Ever flown an RV. I had the opportunity. That "RV grin" is not just advertising! Reg Yep sure have, and I'm not saying it's a bad plane - they indeed fly quite nicely, but personally, I think the T18 generally looks and fly's better, of course, I might be bias as I used to own one, and...I'd still to this day, buy a T18 in preferance to the similarly configured RV - I'd probably even own a Mustang II, or maybe even Glassair before I bought an RV also - I don't know, maybe its all popy syndrome thing with me, or like I mentioned, everyones got one and maybe its for that reason I'm just not interested - its almost like you're all of a sudden in the cool set if you have one, and that alone for me is good enough reason not to have one Matt Gray VH-UEG - A150K VH-UEH - Airedale A109 VH-UYL - Taylorcraft J2 aerobat@cessna150pilot.com A150K@hotmail.com

Re: Watch This Space Matthew Gray #287754 11/11/10 04:29 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 276 Alexandria, VA Charlie Martinez Member/250+posts
Charlie Martinez Member/250+posts Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 276 Alexandria, VA	I've taken demo flights at Vans in both the RV-9 and the RV-12. Each time I came back with a big grin. But, they're not cheap. For the price, you can't beat the handling of a 150! Charlie N30713 1970 C-177B Based at W32 (Washington Executive Hyde Field, MD)

Re: Watch This Space Grants Pass Bill #287796 11/11/10 01:47 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,797 Palm Beach Gardens, FL (F45) John Lapham Member/2500+posts
John Lapham Member/2500+posts Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,797 Palm Beach Gardens, FL (F45)	Originally Posted by Grants_Pass_Bill If only there was room for Cheyenne, her kennel and the camping gear. It really is hard to beat the amount of baggage space you have available in the 150/152. I have never had an issue putting anything I need to in the back of my plane. That is certainly something I would miss if I got another plane. John '81 C-152 N6298M Track my flights [johnlapham.com]

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